Manga: Rosario + Vampire

I don’t normally do manga; my taste has moved away from comic books in general over the years, and manga is particularly hard for me to read, since it involves running against the (western) habit of reading left to right. Despite that, I spent yesterday checking out scanlations of R+V, to get an idea of whether or not the animé was going to be worth a long-term commitment, or if it was going to be another GSNK.

The result? I’m kind of disappointed, but it’s still got some good parts. There’s some serious drama here, some clichés, some character development, some illogic, and so on. It’s very much a mixed bag, and there’s nobody to blame but the manga-ka, Ikeda Akihisa. I would describe him as a naive space cadet who thinks the whole world should be friends, at least based on a few notes he included with the story, the general tone and theme of the manga (friendship conquers all), and one specific storyline he wrote in response to a stabbing near where he lived. Now how much of his story is going to make it into the animé is yet to be determined, but obviously they plan to get all four girls in, despite the fact that one of them shows up very late in the manga. If they bring her in early, it will require significant changes to the continuity, as when/how she gets involved is tied into things that not only haven’t happened yet, they’ve actually been either dropped or pushed back in the sequence. Personally, I believe it’s the latter, or there’s some serious violence done to the story. Which, for some aspects, might be a good idea. And that’s all I can say above the fold: I must warn you that I”m going to get into some discussion of story spoilers eventually: the good, the bad, and the amusing.

The “amusing” (non-spoiler) would be the fans of the manga; their reaction has been pretty negative, from what I’ve seen here and on a forum I lost the link to. Everyone seems upset that Gonzo upped the fanservice. Hmmm. Guys, are we reading the same manga? It’s more per chapter because the manga has fewer opportunities; it would have to be a panty shot every frame to equal in numbers what the animé delivers. I will concede there is still a proportional increase, that the first glomping was a change, and the “upgrading” of alt-Moka’s bust and butt size. I will also say that I think the first was necessary if the show was going to get made, the second criticism may be correct, and I agree with the third change; I think the Manga-ka’s style of continuing to draw her with thin hips and bust is in error. (I originally wrote “bush”…Thank you Sigmund Freud.) There were scenes where I couldn’t tell for certain which Moka was present, until I saw the rosario was off. Furthermore, she looks more mature in the animé; there is no question that alt-Moka is an adult, whereas in the manga, she still looks like a teen due to the skinnier appearance. Most amusing was a comment on the lost forum, indicating that Gonzo had ruined a serious romantic story. Much h8 for Gonzo!

Serious. Romantic. Story. Are you kidding me? This is a harem comedy! Whomever wrote that wouldn’t know serious romance if it bit him on the neck.

Now, having gotten past my snark, let’s dive below the fold and get into some spoilerific territory. While I avoid specifics, there are still plot spoilers galore, and not behind tags. You have been warned.


The good: I like the fourth girl, Mizoré the snow fairy; she’s actually my favorite, in terms of personality. (Kurumu still has my libido locked up.) Quiet, a bit shy, a loner, creepy, misunderstood… and crazy. Stalker-crazy. “Fairy” is actually a misnomer; she’s introduced as the icy equivalent of a Will o’wisp; one who lures men to their doom in snowstorms. Her motivations are a bit different; she’s a stalker-fan from reading Tskune’s articles in the school newspaper. She sees him as a kindred soul and tries to kidnap him. She eventually accepts that she’s not going to be able to as long as the other girls are around, but Mizore continues to stalk him at every opportunity; she is occasionally unnoticed, somewhere in the scene. She’s the least gregarious of the girls, and appears to have excellent stealth ability, though it’s not clear whether that is supernatural. Several times, no one sees Mizore until she speaks. (FYI, it’s a lolipop that she always has in her mouth.)

Somewhat good: it becomes obvious just how much danger Tskune is in. Several times he’s badly wounded and nearly killed. Eventually, all four of the girls (and a few others) discover that he is human, and all of them chose to protect him. Of course, this has the expected effect of making him feel less “manly”; his reactions (and subsequent events) drive a wedge between him and Moka, keeping the other girls’ hopes up. While this sometimes falls flat (especially early on before the danger rears its head), overall it means that the harem aspect isn’t forced; it becomes believable (at least to them) that one of the other girls could win — although it would clearly hurt Tskune, who’s remains fixated on Moka even when mad at her. (You have to care to be mad at someone.)

Yet more good: The “one-teacher school” trope is avoided. Mostly. There is a caveat: Show ▼

The bad: Ikeda-sama has trapped himself with his one-trick pony. Only Tskune can yank off the rosary and release alt-Moka. Therefore, almost every battle follows the predictable formula that one or another of them gets into trouble, and then Tskune saves the day by risking life and limb to pull the rosary. Later, a wrinkle gets added that involves up-powering Tskune temporarily (which is not without its dangers). Only three times in 26 chapters is the day saved by anything other than removing the rosario. Well, four, but the last one was special. Worse, the manga-ka has not dropped the first hint of why alt-Moka has locked herself away behind a weaker personality. Several times, it almost gets her killed; while she’s strong and fast compared to a human, shes far weaker than other monsters — until the rosario is removed. Then, only three opponents ever give alt-Moka serious trouble, and in two of those cases, she was weakened first.

More bad: One of the battles won without alt-Moka involved Kurumu developing a new power; one that only the most powerful succubi can achieve…. and then we never see it again, even though it would be very, very useful afterwards. It’s just forgotten.

Yet more bad: Some villains are also completely forgotten. There’s a very fascistic group at the school that targets the gang, due to their activities in the newspaper club. There appear to be five or six of them, but the gang only confronts two; they take down one assigned to watching them, then have an epic confrontation with their leader. We never hear from or see the others.

And a final bad: the manga seems a lot like a monster-of-the-week series, especially early on. It’s either that or angst. It gets better later on, as the drama develops.

In addition to the teacher caveat above, we never see the school’s administration or staff. We do see the staff of the school’s hospital. Apparently, monster fights are so common, it has its own hospital, which appears to be as large as the school itself.

It’s needed: the show turns quite bloody, and there are casualties. Innocent people die; so do guilty ones. (Fortunately, none of the innocents are the core girls). I can’t tell at this point if Ikeda-sama actually has a plan and long term plot in mind; however I’m going to speculate on what I think it is. I warn you, it’s a massive spoiler, so behind the tag it goes.

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I’m not sure that Ikeda-sama is really all that forward thinking, and put together that much background. He could easily just be telling whatever story comes to mind, and making it up as he goes along. The thing greatly supporting this hypothesis is that Tskune has never bothered to ask either of the Moka’s, “Why are you doing this?”

That, and his general blandness are what bother me most about him. Tskune is a teenager, and he’s acting like a teenager… “one of those half-assed male leads in a manga.” His assertiveness is limited to the tactical situation of the moment; he’s given no thought at all to the strategic view, or the rationale behind his situation Tskune isn’t strong enough to hold my attention as the lead. He’s brave and valiant, but he’s not curious enough about the chaos around him to be credible. Nor does he have much else going for him, like Yuuiji’s humanity, Kyon’s snarkiness, or Souské’s zeal.

Overall, I have to say that if the animé follows the manga faithfully, I will quite probably lose interest in it once I’ve had my fill of T&A. If Gonzo takes some chances and changes up a few things (especially the repetitive battles), and they do follow a script like the one above, then the show could be the sleeper of the winter. It would just depend on how Tskune and the transition from comedy to horror/drama are handled.

Edited for clarity

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11 Responses to Manga: Rosario + Vampire

  1. Andrew F. says:

    Heh, I’ve read so much manga that right-to-left feels totally natural, while left-to-right is slightly awkward. Not just with comics, either; sometimes I pick up a magazine and start reading from the last page.

    On the subject of fanservice, has there ever been an anime series with more fanservice than the original manga? Even without having read the manga or seen the show, I find it hard to believe that the latter could be raunchier than the former, given that anime is constrained by broadcast standards while manga has nothing like that to deal with.

  2. jgreely says:

    Heh. I was just about to start composing some comments on the manga, after picking up the first four volumes at Kinokuniya last night (half the price of translated manga!) in order to find out how the story got to where I saw it in volume 7 (which covers chapters 25-28, so I know exactly where you are). The next two chapters fit very neatly into your speculations, since the end of 27 leads into the school’s headmaster revealing some overdue plot coupons to Tsukune.

    Other notes: it’s the mangaka who labeled Mizore a snow fairy, so yes, it’s “off” in the way a lot of English invented by Japanese is. I just like the image it conjures up of Sugar, and she is cute. Also, the character designs show a distinct change over time that mirrors the direction the story is taking; by volume 7, the main cast is being drawn in a much more realistic, adult fashion. I was quite surprised at how different they looked in volume 1, which looks a lot more like the fan-service comedy they seem to be making in the anime. I suspect that this, like the storyline, wasn’t planned, and is a result of him changing his mind as things progress.

    Given what they’ve already skipped, I think the animators have decided to tell a self-contained story that sticks to the lighter side of the manga, with the only plot complication being Tsukune’s reaction to the regular feedings. Supporting evidence: in the manga, he’s not trapped there by a once-a-month bus schedule, and he’s shown calling his parents on a dorm pay-phone. Also, they skipped chapter 3, despite the obvious fan-service, which either means they really wanted Yukari in the story right away, or they didn’t want to show hot girls becoming real monsters. Given that, I think chapters 5 and 7 fit in, but 12 doesn’t, and that the rivals introduced in chapter 8 will be completely ignored. I think they’ll also cut chapters 13-16 down into a single episode, eliminating most of the darkness.

    -j

  3. ANN and AnimeNFO both say this is 13 eps. There really isn’t time in a series that short to tell the kind of story Ubu is talking about. On the other hand, it could be one of those planned double-halfseries shows, like Vandread or Gravion or Divergence Eve, and maybe they’ll handle the darker parts of it in the second part.

    And if the snow fairy is going to be in the series as anything more than a last-ep cameo, then it sounds like they’ll be doing some serious reorganizing of the overall plot line.

  4. IKnight says:

    ‘[S]ome good parts’ is a good evaluation of the manga; it’s good enough that I can enjoy it, even if I still feel ashamed to like it. And I’m certainly in the ‘Ikeda didn’t plan this carefully’ camp.

    As jgreely says, the art style has changed in certain respects. In the last two chapters there were several drawings of Moka which reminded me of my shojo manga phase.

    It will be interesting to see where the anime goes. I’m not going to get my hopes up, though.

  5. Ubu Roi says:

    Personally, I’m in agreement with J.’s speculation in his last paragraph. The omission thus far hints at a completely different, lightweight plot.

    Andrew: certainly. This one, for instance. As I note, it contains a slightly greater proportion of pantsu, and definitely greater in numeric terms. And more cleavage. I kind of skipped the first few chapters, since it roughly duplicated the storyline so far, so I don’t know if the forced groping of Kurumu occured in the manga though.

    Aside: There is another later on, that is not forced…Tskune is not exactly himself and grabs one of Kurumu’s breasts. Weirdly, it’s almost like she didn’t notice. She might have reflexively slapped him, but it’s not clear and she definitely doesn’t make a big deal out of it afterwards.

  6. jgreely says:

    Yes, Yukari voodoo-dolls Tsukune into groping Kurumu, and after her initial shock, she’s so pleased that she gives the audience a detailed upskirt shot. There’s no pants-removal or sudden breeze, but that joke doesn’t work as well in manga. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if the cosplay photo session in chapter 7 takes up most of an episode, so that the fight ends up in the second half of a two-parter.

    Oh, and my earlier comment has a small typo. I meant to write that chapters 4 & 7 fit in. Obviously 5 does, since it’s already been done!

    -j

  7. Owen S says:

    If you’re wondering about what exactly went through the heads of fans of the manga when raging about the anime, it was probably something like this. It’s pretty reasonable IMO, but considering how you outlined the improvements in the anime very well I’m not sure I’m inclined to check out the manga at this rate. R+V’s been a solid and entertaining series for me so far, pantyshots aside, and that was an enlightening read. A+ for the effort.

  8. Ubu Roi says:

    oh, ok. No wonder I couldn’t find it; I was looking for a forum, and it was the comments on that blog! Yep, saw it and the comparisons; that’s why I conceeded the switch from the bicycle to the glomping.

    And thanks for the A+ ;) Maybe it will bring my average up to D- ?

  9. Owen S says:

    Hah, if this was a Harry Potter grading scale you would’ve gotten “Exceeds Expectations” for being an R+V post that didn’t just mindlessly bash it by virtue of what it was or for being a “bad” adaptation. :P ’nuff said.

    Also, I chanced a look at that massive spoiler in the second half of your post, and whoa. That is some mad analytical skills there — and all that from just 26 chapters? Amazing. If the anime follows that path I’ll certainly be singing its praises like the proverbial sliced bread, so thanks for the heads up.

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  11. Ubu Roi says:

    Heh. Don’t get your hopes up. The thing about animé is that it’s done by the Japanese, and there’s a big difference in the way we look at it. Americans are from the Western “rationalist” school… everything has to fit and make sense. I’m not sure what the school of thought is named that the Japanese adhere to (slips my mind at the moment if I did know it), but it’s based more on feeling and emotion. They’re not too concerned with tight narrative and all the facts dovetailing; often things happen that aren’t supposed to make sense, and then we westerners try to make it all fit. This makes Japanese bilingual otaku look at us and go “why are you obsessing over it?”

    Now if you want mad analytical skilz, try this explanation of Hand Maid May from SDB. Spoiler loaded.

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