Comments on: Manga: Rosario + Vampire http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680 Japanese animé, gaming, and other silly things Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:46:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Ubu Roi http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6761 Ubu Roi Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:52:35 +0000 http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6761 Heh. Don't get your hopes up. The thing about animé is that it's done by the Japanese, and there's a big difference in the way we look at it. Americans are from the Western "rationalist" school... everything has to fit and make sense. I'm not sure what the school of thought is named that the Japanese adhere to (slips my mind at the moment if I did know it), but it's based more on feeling and emotion. They're not too concerned with tight narrative and all the facts dovetailing; often things happen that aren't supposed to make sense, and then we westerners try to make it all fit. This makes Japanese bilingual otaku look at us and go "why are you obsessing over it?" Now if you want mad analytical skilz, try this explanation of Hand Maid May from <a href="http://denbeste.nu/Chizumatic/tmw/hmm01.shtml" rel="nofollow">SDB</a>. Spoiler loaded. Heh. Don’t get your hopes up. The thing about animé is that it’s done by the Japanese, and there’s a big difference in the way we look at it. Americans are from the Western “rationalist” school… everything has to fit and make sense. I’m not sure what the school of thought is named that the Japanese adhere to (slips my mind at the moment if I did know it), but it’s based more on feeling and emotion. They’re not too concerned with tight narrative and all the facts dovetailing; often things happen that aren’t supposed to make sense, and then we westerners try to make it all fit. This makes Japanese bilingual otaku look at us and go “why are you obsessing over it?”

Now if you want mad analytical skilz, try this explanation of Hand Maid May from SDB. Spoiler loaded.

]]> By: MangaBlog » Blog Archive » Milestones http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6757 MangaBlog » Blog Archive » Milestones Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:02:40 +0000 http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6757 [...] Reviews: It’s Shojo Beat Week at Manga Recon, where Erin Finnegan reviews vol. 1 of Honey and Clover, vol. 1 of The Sand Chronicles, and vol. 2 of Fall in Love Like a Comic. Ben Leary reviews vol. 1 of Yurara and Greg Hackman takes a look at the Demon Ororon Complete Collection at Anime on DVD. Ed Chavez podcasts his thoughts on Witchblade Takeru and Dorothy of Oz at the MangaCast. At the Manga Maniac Cafe, Julie checks out vol. 4 of Inubaka: Crazy for Dogs and I’ll Be Your Slave Tiamat’s Disciple enjoys vol. 1 of Black God but can’t even finish Pandora: A Death JR Story. Mely has lots to say about vol. 8 of Godchild at coffeeandink. At Active Anime, Holly Ellingwood reviews vol. 3 of Le Chevalier d’Eon and I’ll Be Your Slave, and Rachel Bentham has an early look at Party. Mahou Meido Meganekko reads Rosario + Vampire in scanlation and posts a lengthy critique. Jason Punda checks out vol. 1 of Hollow Fields at Manga Jouhou. [...] [...] Reviews: It’s Shojo Beat Week at Manga Recon, where Erin Finnegan reviews vol. 1 of Honey and Clover, vol. 1 of The Sand Chronicles, and vol. 2 of Fall in Love Like a Comic. Ben Leary reviews vol. 1 of Yurara and Greg Hackman takes a look at the Demon Ororon Complete Collection at Anime on DVD. Ed Chavez podcasts his thoughts on Witchblade Takeru and Dorothy of Oz at the MangaCast. At the Manga Maniac Cafe, Julie checks out vol. 4 of Inubaka: Crazy for Dogs and I’ll Be Your Slave Tiamat’s Disciple enjoys vol. 1 of Black God but can’t even finish Pandora: A Death JR Story. Mely has lots to say about vol. 8 of Godchild at coffeeandink. At Active Anime, Holly Ellingwood reviews vol. 3 of Le Chevalier d’Eon and I’ll Be Your Slave, and Rachel Bentham has an early look at Party. Mahou Meido Meganekko reads Rosario + Vampire in scanlation and posts a lengthy critique. Jason Punda checks out vol. 1 of Hollow Fields at Manga Jouhou. [...]

]]> By: Owen S http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6753 Owen S Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:43:00 +0000 http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6753 Hah, if this was a Harry Potter grading scale you would've gotten "Exceeds Expectations" for being an R+V post that didn't just mindlessly bash it by virtue of what it was or for being a "bad" adaptation. :P 'nuff said. Also, I chanced a look at that massive spoiler in the second half of your post, and whoa. That is some mad analytical skills there -- and all that from just 26 chapters? Amazing. If the anime follows that path I'll certainly be singing its praises like the proverbial sliced bread, so thanks for the heads up. Hah, if this was a Harry Potter grading scale you would’ve gotten “Exceeds Expectations” for being an R+V post that didn’t just mindlessly bash it by virtue of what it was or for being a “bad” adaptation. :P ’nuff said.

Also, I chanced a look at that massive spoiler in the second half of your post, and whoa. That is some mad analytical skills there — and all that from just 26 chapters? Amazing. If the anime follows that path I’ll certainly be singing its praises like the proverbial sliced bread, so thanks for the heads up.

]]> By: Ubu Roi http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6752 Ubu Roi Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:54:45 +0000 http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6752 oh, ok. No wonder I couldn't find it; I was looking for a forum, and it was the comments on that blog! Yep, saw it and the comparisons; that's why I conceeded the switch from the bicycle to the glomping. And thanks for the A+ ;) Maybe it will bring my average up to D- ? oh, ok. No wonder I couldn’t find it; I was looking for a forum, and it was the comments on that blog! Yep, saw it and the comparisons; that’s why I conceeded the switch from the bicycle to the glomping.

And thanks for the A+ ;) Maybe it will bring my average up to D- ?

]]> By: Owen S http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6751 Owen S Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:33:57 +0000 http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6751 If you're wondering about what exactly went through the heads of fans of the manga when raging about the anime, it was probably something like <a href="http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2008/01/04/the-bastardization-of-rosario-vampire/" rel="nofollow">this</a>. It's pretty reasonable IMO, but considering how you outlined the improvements in the anime very well I'm not sure I'm inclined to check out the manga at this rate. R+V's been a solid and entertaining series for me so far, pantyshots aside, and that was an enlightening read. A+ for the effort. If you’re wondering about what exactly went through the heads of fans of the manga when raging about the anime, it was probably something like this. It’s pretty reasonable IMO, but considering how you outlined the improvements in the anime very well I’m not sure I’m inclined to check out the manga at this rate. R+V’s been a solid and entertaining series for me so far, pantyshots aside, and that was an enlightening read. A+ for the effort.

]]> By: jgreely http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6750 jgreely Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:04:41 +0000 http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6750 Yes, Yukari voodoo-dolls Tsukune into groping Kurumu, and after her initial shock, she's so pleased that she gives the audience a detailed upskirt shot. There's no pants-removal or sudden breeze, but that joke doesn't work as well in manga. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the cosplay photo session in chapter 7 takes up most of an episode, so that the fight ends up in the second half of a two-parter. Oh, and my earlier comment has a small typo. I meant to write that chapters 4 & 7 fit in. Obviously 5 does, since it's already been done! -j Yes, Yukari voodoo-dolls Tsukune into groping Kurumu, and after her initial shock, she’s so pleased that she gives the audience a detailed upskirt shot. There’s no pants-removal or sudden breeze, but that joke doesn’t work as well in manga. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if the cosplay photo session in chapter 7 takes up most of an episode, so that the fight ends up in the second half of a two-parter.

Oh, and my earlier comment has a small typo. I meant to write that chapters 4 & 7 fit in. Obviously 5 does, since it’s already been done!

-j

]]> By: Ubu Roi http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6749 Ubu Roi Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:15:44 +0000 http://bridgebunnies.com/?p=680#comment-6749 Personally, I'm in agreement with J.'s speculation in his last paragraph. The omission thus far hints at a completely different, lightweight plot. Andrew: certainly. This one, for instance. As I note, it contains a slightly greater proportion of <em>pantsu,</em> and definitely greater in numeric terms. And more cleavage. I kind of skipped the first few chapters, since it roughly duplicated the storyline so far, so I don't know if the forced groping of Kurumu occured in the manga though. Aside: There is another later on, that is not forced...Tskune is not exactly himself and grabs one of Kurumu's breasts. Weirdly, it's almost like she didn't notice. She might have reflexively slapped him, but it's not clear and she definitely doesn't make a big deal out of it afterwards. Personally, I’m in agreement with J.’s speculation in his last paragraph. The omission thus far hints at a completely different, lightweight plot.

Andrew: certainly. This one, for instance. As I note, it contains a slightly greater proportion of pantsu, and definitely greater in numeric terms. And more cleavage. I kind of skipped the first few chapters, since it roughly duplicated the storyline so far, so I don’t know if the forced groping of Kurumu occured in the manga though.

Aside: There is another later on, that is not forced…Tskune is not exactly himself and grabs one of Kurumu’s breasts. Weirdly, it’s almost like she didn’t notice. She might have reflexively slapped him, but it’s not clear and she definitely doesn’t make a big deal out of it afterwards.

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